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tomorrow i sit down with warren buffett and eva longoria. what do they have in common? something you may not expect and here for their first primetime interview. that's all for us tonight "ac 360" starts right now. good evening, everyone. as one official here in johannesburg put it, the world is coming to south africa. coming to pay tribute to south africa, the father of modern south africa. the single largest gathering of heads of state in generations. among them president obama and three ex-presidents from the united states arriving this morning. former presidents clinton and carter flying separately along with presidents, prime ministers and princes and kings from nearly 100 countries. no less significantly ordinary people from all across south africa all converging on a soccer stadium here in johannesburg. it's built to hold 94,000 and
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may not be big enough and certainly too small to contain all the people to thank the man who led them to freedom. they led a country to freedom and showed the world a better way. i had the privilege of spending time with bono of the band u2. he knew nelson mandela over the years and been the voice for justice here since the late 1970s. when you first heard that he had died, what went through your mind? >> stubborn until the end. you know, it was like he was playing this big sort of, he was trying to outstare god. >> his leadership was, was in part his ability not only to get consensus but also his ability to overcome the natural anger and bitterness and resentment he would have for being in prissen for 27 years. he saw the need that he had to have overcome that. he had to put that aside. >> yeah, he refused to hate.
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not just because he hadn't experienced rage, but lived with rage and he thought that love would do a better job of liberation, of emancipation. you know, what sort of country would they inherit if the people were further embattled against each other. i mean, this is, this is the gift of vision, i guess, into the future. being able to see a future before it exists. i mean, that's probably his gift, isn't it? >> we'll have more tonight with bono and krp krp and first toss it back to john berman. >> what an amazing scene there in just a few hours. as for all of you at home, please repeat these words as we play this next video. it's not even winter yet. no, that's not the sky falling outside dallas, that's sheets of
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ice. one guy said the apocalypse was starting. he was wrong, so far, at least. but he was not alone. people across the country are slipping, sliding and getting snowed under or just plain freezing. others are cooling their heels stuck in airports facing a wall of flight delays and cancellations. in a moment, chad myers on what's causing all this and what's next. but, first, here's 360's randi kaye. >> reporter: in texas, the trouble is ice. and lots of it. at this apartment building in plano, look out below. >> holy moly. >> reporter: huge sheets of ice puts passersby in the danger zone. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: and where it isn't ice, it's snow creating problems. in nevada, the search is on for two adults. james and christina mcinty. along with his two children and her niece and nephew.
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they all went to play in the snow sunday and still have not returned. search and rescue teams are looking for their jeep. the children range in age from 3 to 10 years old. freezing temperatures have officials on high alert. in the midwest, wind chills are 40 below zero. even dallas ft. worth is in a deep freeze. about 20,000 customers are without power. and the airport, it's a mess. more than 2,600 flights were canceled sunday nationwide. about 400 of them at dfw. this man from canada is documenting it all on youtube. >> this is day four dallas-ft. worth international airport. times are getting desperate. >> if you think getting around by car is the answer, think again. in arizona, 300 vehicles got stuck in an enormous chain reaction. and in pennsylvania, a 50-car pileup left one motorist dead. it took them so long to clear the road there, that some
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stranded drivers had pizza delivered. this pileup late sunday night in yonkers, new york, involved 20 cars. 40 people were injured. none serious. out west in milwaukee, more than 100 cars got caught up in yet three more pileups. >> it was bad. like you could barely see out the road. just swerving through cars. dodging cars and we ended up in the ditch. >> reporter: from state to state, plows are out in full force. trying to prevent more deadly chain reactions. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> our thanks to randi for that. that's the what. chad myers with the why. and, yes, what's next? chad, we saw the multi-car pileups in randi's piece there. the danger not going away any time soon for those of us on the east coast, is it? >> no, because snow is coming tomorrow morning. more snow like you need that to cover up the ice that might develop tonight. watch out for the black ice and it's cold again tonight. especially in pennsylvania, west
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virginia and if you get into the midwest and most people don't know this. but if you get the temperature down to 10, even a salted road will refreeze because the salt just can't get it melted any colder than that. the salt water, the salt on the ground will literally refreeze. philadelphia, baltimore, d.c., you're in for snow. snow in d.c. tomorrow morning it's 6:00 a.m. philadelphia probably three to five. new york city, a little bit less than that. it's a low pressure that came from the same place that the last one came from. coming down from the southwest and moving over the northeast. the good news, not going to bring ice and going to move pretty quickly. out of here in no time. only four inches of snow, five inches of snow and not 10 or 12 and not the ice because if we don't have warm air on top. the last storm we had all that ice because the warm air was on top. john, look at this. this is the u.s. and here's the northwest and here's arizona, here's texas. this is all snow on the ground
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this year. that's what it looked like last year. no snow on the ground, really, whatsoever. john? >> in the east coast it is coming back for more. chad, what about out west? what about the case of the tragic case of the family missing in nevada. extremely cold conditions out there. any news, good news perhaps for them? >> you know, it was 16 degrees below zero. i figure that, that's more than 100 degrees below your body temperature as that cold air just came straight out of the north and up here in the northwest parts of nevada. the only thing i can hope for for this family is that the tank of gas was full and they can use that gas to keep themselves warm and that authorities can find them before that gas finally runs out. if there's one thing you should learn from the lessons of these people, never let your tank below a half a tank in the winter. you might need that for the electricity, the power, the heat in that car. >> chad myers, terrific advice, thanks so much. thanks for the forecast, as well.
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now, let's go back to anderson cooper in south africa. anderson? >> john, thanks very much. we'll go back to john we have news in the united states. peep x peopline coming to the compound behind me. the act of helping someone seeing a world beyond their lifetime and even tonight their eyes are sometimes full of tears. more than four days on, south africa is a nation mourning. and a nation celebratincelebrat. those who knew him best are retelling stories not always about the icon, but about the friend. >> it nearly was like a magician with a magic wand. turning us, turning us into this glorious multi- >> reporter: formal memorials
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but impromptu ones are everywhere. this board set up outside his home in soweta portion. why did you want to be here stod? >> we're here just to be where he was. you know, when he came out. just to be with the people, you know. i think that's what is most important about today. is being amongst the people that love him the most. >> reporter: these three young south africans were babies when mandela was released from prison in 1990, but the lessons he taught then still apply today. >> he was the beacon of change. he came at just the right time and so much that we have learned from the man. he had to suffer and endure so many personal sacrifices and still came out and he taught us, all of us, black, white, all across to reconcile and just think about our future and where we want to go. >> reporter: outside another mandela home in johannesburg,
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there are flowers, notes and music. while the memorial is tomorrow, for many people mandela's house has been the place to come to congregate and to express their live for the man they know as. >> reporter: join at least 90,000 people in johannesburg. the site of mandela's first major speech after being released from prison. now the site where people will say good-bye. well, memorial service gets under way here at 11:00 a.m. local time. covering with me chief international correspondent christiane amanpour she is the host of "amanpour international" and along with brianna keilar who joins us from the white house. what strikes you as you're walking around talking to people here? >> one thing says thank you, without you, we wouldn't be able
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to get married. a multi-racial couple who could have never had a family under the old regime. that is a stark example. what is so incredible is that people are joyful. everybody expected the country to fall apart once mandela died. it really is a celebration and a great motif of this place. you talked about music, we recall music is something that sustained him in prissen and kept his name alive in the darkest hours of aparhide and people were having big celebrations and we'll see a lot of that at the memorial. >> it will start by the national anth anthem. bono will be there, as well. more of my conversation later with bono in this hour. the american delegation, including, i mean, a lot of former presidents. former president george w. bush, secretary clinton all aboard air force one with president and mrs. obama. i want to talk about security
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altogether. that whole group on air force one. do they all hang out together? >> actually they did, anderson. we're told the bushes and obamas and secretary clinton were in the private conference room around the table hanging out and actually exchanging stories about their encounters with nelson mandela. would have been a fascinating conversation because between the three contingants there having these experiences with mandela that spanned three administrations and then after that, you know how it is on a long haul flight, even if you like the person you're traveling with, you need a little down time and alone time. the obamas retired to their cabin and the bushes took the medical office right behind their cabin and secretary clinton retired to the senior staff cabin. >> and president clinton, former president carter, they're coming separately on different flights. so many world leaders, very interesting not only from a security standpoint, but just logistically.
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you have world leaders that do not communicate with the united states. >> i think that's extraordinarily. these guys are making a 17-hour flight. so, it shows you how much they want to be here. the president of brazil is here and she will speak, president obama will speak and the representative, the highest representative from china will speak. remember, china has a huge influence in africa almost taking over america's involvement in terms of economic development. >> the doalai lama could not ge a visa there. >> he is always sensitive. >> raul castro who mandela was very close to. fidel castro and some of the global freedom fighters who stood up for him. we spoke to the american ambassador here, patrick gaspar who told me of all the stories when he was a young man getting arrested and active on campus. america played a big role. >> he is now the ambassador to
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south africa. how does this work logistically? they all have secret service details. how confident are american authorities about security here? >> well, i think they are confident, anderson, because if they weren't, quite frankly, president obama would not be coming. for president obama is this is a little bit of a repeat. he was in south africa just this past summer. and at that time, nelson mandela's health was so poor that it was really touch and go. you had secret service in touch with the south african counterparts for some time now. a preliminary plan was in place here. i actually spoke today with former administration officials to presidents clinton and bush who were instrumental in planning their trips to the funerals for israeli prime minister and also to the funeral for pope john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be.
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that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we hope you'll join us for that. let us know what you think about mandela. tweet us using #ac360. coming up next my of my exclusive conversation with bono. (vo) you are a business pro. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national.
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hey, welcome back, i'm live in johannesburg, sometimes meeting one of your hero can be a disappointment, sometimes, not for bono, who wrote a tribute to his long-time friend, quote, he had humor and humility, laughter, not tears was his preferred way. bono recounts the damage done to his eyes in the long-term mine, he could not form tears, now, he could finally cry, and now he writes, and so could we. there is more of our conversation. do you remember the first time you met mandela? >> you know, i worked for him way longer than before i met him.
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i think it was in dublin, in the four seasons hotel. it was not a very auspicious. we had many, many meetings over the years. >> what was he like? >> a lesson in humility, humor, and of course patience, but would always make you laugh. >> one of the things i find extraordinary about him, as a young man, the white regime used divide and conquer, to keep black south africans apart, to emphasize, well, you're a zulu, whatever your ethnic group may be. and he early on started to see the importance of being an african, not just the group he was born into. >> oh, you're really -- this is the piece we should really dwell on in his passing. who are the figures now for this? and why is that so critical? well, the only thing that can
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stop africa's dramatic rise to be the dominant continent over the next century, is tribal tensions, you know, african trade within africa is really low and corruption. all of these must be tackled by a sense, this is what africans tell me of togetherness. >> and mandela talked about poverty, an issue close to your heart. he said without the eradication of poverty, there can be no true fwreed freedm. >> it is an act of justice. and this, like slavery, like apartheid, he said, poverty is not natural. it is man made and so it can be overcome by the actions of human
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beings. they said yeah, to -- some generations, forge a chance to be great. you can be that great generation. and i've been working for this man since i was a teenager, and he has turned my life upside down. or right side up. you know, working on this struggle as a justice struggle, not about charity, justice. same with hiv aids. you know, later when he lost his son to that disease, it became a very big deal for him. worked for him. strange. his partner and -- archbishop tutu, the arch, which is what we call him, in the interview, the arch. he is amazing, if i don't do what he says, mandela is very persuasive but the arch is a higher level. he says if you don't do this i will see that you don't get to heaven. the arch, i can't wait to see him tomorrow. i love him so much. and think of these two men, they
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came out of the same neighborhood. it is extraordinary. and god's provision for this country. because you can't explain how this tinder box did not go off, it is a miracle. >> young people don't remember what apartheid truly was like, some say, don't remember the reality of what life was like here for the majority of the population, the black population. >> that is true. and it is -- it is worth remembering. and perhaps this is why this moment carries with it such gravitas, there is a lot at stake. it's worth, i think, it's worth. south africa is being reminded that its dna means one community moving out of the way for the other. that they are somehow -- their progress is strongly linked.
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>> is there an image of nelson mind's eye?t you have in your i think of him being released from prison in 1990. leaving those prison gates with his arm up and that extraordinary moment when the world saw him for the first time. is there -- you knew him personally, is there an image you had in your mind? >> there is so many. but i think -- open face, open mind. and big laughing mouth. and more that than the fist in the air actually, for me. and you know, people say why are we paying so much attention to this man's passing. what do you say so somebody who may not understand, who hadn't been here, who doesn't remember? >> he represents in a way, the fist turning into a hand shake. that -- i think that is why he is so important to understand right now. in a strange way he wasn't dr.
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king, he wasn't gandhi, he was a boxer. he was a fighter. and that he wanted to stop fighting to make peace with his enemy and risked his a eed his to do so. he gave up his -- his wife, and his family. he put everything on the line. he won everything with that. except as he says himself, the only thing the enemy took from me was my marriage. but now, if you spend time with her, she is another one. i don't know where they get them around here. >> did you believe -- that this fight would in the end prevail? that justice would prevail in south africa?
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i mean, in '79, in '80, '85, when you worked on the apartheid, you knew that right was on the side of south africa, but did you know that justice would be on their side? >> i thought it was extraordinary that there was support for apartheid. and this was probably worth remembering. our -- a lot of governments, our governments in different phases kind of supported apartheid. you know? and it is -- so it looked like they had a lot of support. but i think we all knew that freedom, you know, and justice and -- is a human right. and no human wrong could contain that. >> so is it sadness you feel today? >> both.
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i'm feeling -- i did feel a bit at sea there for a bit. but now i'm seeing the people in the streets outside the house, they're dancing. i'm thinking oh, yeah, the african way, irish of course, full of melancholy, the africans celebrate the life. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and we've certainly seen a lot of celebration here, we'll have more from south africa here, more for the celebrations and the major event around this country and ahead. also one american freed from north korea, another still in prison. i'm going to talk to the sister of kenneth bae, and we'll get her thoughts on the release of the 85-year-old. plus, a newlywed on trial, accused of killing her new husband. pushing her husband off a cliff. the jury it seated. we'll see more on the developments ahead. 9. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation
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. 85-year-old u.s. veteran merrill newman is letting the world know about his ordeal after being captured there. his ordeal turned into more than a month in captivity. the report showed he had entered their country in their words, with "wrong understanding of it." and hostile acts against it, that act was to reminisce too much about his time during the war and whether he could speak to any surviving north korean counterparts. he explains "north koreans have misinterpreted my curiosity as something more sinister. as something more sinister.
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he disavowed that so-called confession and apology that the north koreans made him videotape, saying he would be threatened with a long prison sentence inif he did not cooperate. he is fortunate to be home. and the tourist named kenneth bae is also in prison there. like newman, he entered the country lawfully on a visa. unlike newman, he was detained more than a year ago. tried, convicted and sentenced in may to 15 years hard labor. he is still there. us now. i can't imagine what is going through your mind, i know you're clearly happy for the newman family but are deeply concerned about your brother. do you have any expectations that they might release your brother at the same time they released mr. newman? >> you know, we were happy for the newman family, but it was a bittersweet moment for our
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family to see the happy reunion and something that we have been fighting for, for the past 13 months. and kenneth esteem remains in prison in north korea. so that was a sad moment for us in that way. >> i know you recently got a letter from kenneth. what did he say? >> he reiterated his desire to just be home and be reunited with us. and you know, he knows the holidays are coming up. and he had hoped to be home by the end of this year. something that we have been praying for, as well. he needed help from the u.s. government to bring him home. that it is not something that we can just do on our own. >> so he believes he wouldn't be released without some type of intervention by the united states. do you have -- i mean, have you been following this with the united states? has the government been in touch
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with you? is there a sense there may be some sort of attempt to send an emissary there? >> nothing that we're aware of specifically, i'm not sure if something is being planned or if we're not just being told because of the sensitive nature. but from where we sit it is very frustrating. it has been 13 months, so you know, i'm not sure what it is going to take. but we do want to see kenneth home now. it is far past time. >> how is your brother's health? i know your mom was able to visit him not long ago when he was actually hospitalized. how is he doing, do you know? >> i think he has been hospitalized for the last three months and that has contributed to some improvements in his health. but he has chronic conditions that require constant treatment. think he has a severe back injury that doesn't allow him to stand for more than 30 minutes at a time. so i think that is part of the
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problem, along with some of his other chronic conditions. >> well, i know you're aware that there are things seen globally. and it is very possible that the regime is watching it. what do you want them to know about your brother? what do you want everybody to know about your brother? what kind of a man is he? >> kenneth is a man of compassion and love. one of our friends described him as an ambassador of peace and light in the world. that is the kind of man he is. he was in north korea to make a living as a tour operator to support his children. three children and his wife. but he was also there because he felt compelled to help and he thought he could bring economic development through tourism and he had the, he had no ill will towards the country and the people in north korea. and he still baears no ill will which is something he made clear in his communeuation with his letters and during my mom's visit to north korea.
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so he is somebody who just has a heart of gold and a compassion and a people lover. somebody who really wants to -- the love for the people of north korea. and that is why he was there. to contribute in some way to make a positive contribution. >> well, terry, i am so sorry that you and your family are going through this, and wish it gets resolved quickly. i want to get you caught up on other stories, susan hendricks has a 360 news and bulletin. the one-year anniversary of the shooting at sandy hook elementary. 20 students and six staffers were killed in that attack. cnn will honor the request and won't be in newtown on the anniversary. and the senate voted unan masly to renew the bans on guns. the bill now goes to president obama for his signature.
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america and british spies have infiltrated "world war craft" and others according to the new documents released. it has more than 7 million subscribers. princeton university has started vaccinating thousands of students to try to stop an outbreak of meningitis b. the cdc is allowing limited use of the vaccine at princeton where eight people have fallen ill. scientists have extracted the oldest human known dna from bones find in northern spain. the 400,000-year-old remains belong to an early human light species that could be an ance ancestor of both neanderthals. really a fascinating find there. >> we should all look so good at 400,000 years old. >> it will make you feel young. >> i feel so young. coming up next, crime and
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punishment and a horrible end to a honeymoon. however this murder trial comes out, just getting under way. the bride that is accused of pushing her husband off a cliff. details straight ahead. now back to anderson. >> also have more from south africa. my conversation with david turnley a pulletszer prize winning photographer. his thoughts and some of his amazing photographs when we continue. the united states popn is going to grow by over 90 million people, and almost all that growth is going to be in cities. what's the healthiest and best way for them to grow so that they really become cauldrons of prosperity and cities of opportunity? what we have found is that if that family is moved into safe, clean affordable housing, places that have access to great school systems, access to jobs and multiple transportation modes then the neighborhood begins to thrive and then really really take off.
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we're going to have more for from here in south africa including a photographer who was close to the mandela family. first, john berman. and first from us, crime and punishment, the trial begins for a woman accused of killing her husband just eight days after their wedding. this is jordan graham just a short time ago leaving a court in montana after the first day of the murder trial that could send her to prissen for the rest of her life. just before this was filmed, graham listened to her best friend testify for the prosecution. one of the first witnesses to be called in this case.
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back in july, graham pushed her new husband, cody johnson, and then he fell off a cliff in monta montana glacier national park. that's when investigators say she told police in opening statements today the prosecution and the defense painted two very different pictures of jordan graham. one as a calculating murderer and the other as a young and naive woman who made a terrible mistake and got scared. now, earlier today 12 jurors and two alternates and now up to them to decide whether this was murder or the worst accident imaginable. kyung lah has the story. >> reporter: jordan graham, slipping into court before dawn, her lily publicized murder trial. graham is charged with first degree murder of her husband of just eight days.
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their young marriage began with such promise. or so it seemed. this was june. jordan graham and cody johnson's wedding, their first dance. a song made for them by elizabeth shay. >> i used words like you helped me to climb higher for a better view, you're my safe place to fall. and so now when i hear those words it is a little creepy. >> reporter: creepy, she says, because of what followed. prosecutors believe graham was having second thoughts about her new husband. eight days after the wedding, prosecutors say graham texted her best friend, oh, well, i'm about to talk to him. her friend replies, i'll pray for you guys. graham then texts, but dead serious, if you don't hear from me at all again tonight, something happened. in a police interview, graham says she got in a heated argument with her new husband to where he tried to hold me down. prosecutors say they tried to cool off, going after dark to the glacier national park. in a police interview, graham
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says the couple hiked this steep trail where the fight continued. she says he went to grab my arm and my jacket and i said no, i'm not going to let this happen to me i'm going to defend myself. so i kind of let go and i pushed and he went over. when prodded by the officer, graham says the push was two hands on the back. 25-year-old cody johnson fell 200 feet face first to his death. his new bride could have called park rangers, but instead, she left. >> she went home and she fabricated this lie. and she lied to all the friends and all the family. >> multiple friends say graham lied to them, saying johnson was simply missing. prosecutors say graham then lied to investigators several times and even tried to cover up the crime by creating a bogus e-mail account to a friend named tony, writing fake e-mails to the police. friends say that they discovered johnson's body. then, came the funeral, and
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behavior that raised serious red flags. friends say graham was unemotional and was actually paying more attention to her phone than the eulogies. >> was she texting during the funeral? >> she was on her phone, whether it was texting or a mobile app. >> i knew right there something was not right. >> reporter: after multiple interviews, jordan graham later told police the truth. prosecutors say graham planned the murder and had raised the possibility that she may have blindfolded her new husband before pushing him off the cliff. you believe this was an accident. >> you know, i'll stand on what we discussed in court. >> reporter: graham's attorneys blasted the claims, calling the push a terrible accident, graham's lies? post-event mistakes and said it was a gross chase of overcharging. that graham was just 21 at the time of her husband's death, that she is naive, deeply
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religious and not capable of murder. just about the only place that both sides can agree is that something both bizarre and tragic happened at all. >> in this wedding video just eight days before the death of cody johnson. kyung lah, how is the prosecution saying graham was regretting iget married and how is the prosecution trying to use this to prove their case about what happened on that cliff? >> well, state of mind is going to be the key for prosecution. what the prosecutor was saying is that they're going to make sure that the jury understands this is a young woman who regretted her choice. she was distraught. and texting multiple people. she was having suicidal thoughts. she had a problem, her problem was her new husband.
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and so she wanted to take care of it and calculated this plan, john, that is what the prosecution is going to say. the defense is going say yes, she regretted it. but this is not a calculating person, this is simply a young woman who was lying to try to get out of a serious mistake. >> quite a lot on the first day, kyung lah, thank you so much, appreciate it. now let's go back to anderson in south africa. >> john, thanks. up next from johannesburg my conversation with the pulitzer prize winner, david turnley, capturing some of the most important photos of the strugp he shares his memories next. ob . but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense.
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well, everyone here in south africa of course, has memories of nelson mandela and what he meant to this country. but hardly anyone has had the extraordinary access of david turnley, a pulitzer prize winner and photographer. he has taken pictures of the family for 30 years and was invited to photograph some of moments of his life. when you first came here in 1985 in this community in soweto, the humiliations, the day-to-day humiliations, it is sort of hard to understand. >> in soweto, where we're
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standing, in 1985, there was absolutely no jurisprudence for people of color in this country. absolutely none. you could be taken and detained for anything, at any time. the way this system operated, in every neighborhood like this, they would find somebody that they could effectively buy as a stooge, as an informant, who would recount to the local police authorities every single teenager and every single adult in the neighborhood that would attend any kind of political rally. those people would get picked up in the middle of the night. this happened systematically, you could go to anybody's house and they would have have had . p you could go to somebody's house, and given the fact there was no due process, communities would take on a kangaroo court justice and deal very tough with these informants. >> the importance of mandela and
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winnie mandela, how did they deal with it at this time? >> together, they just brought together strength, humanness, compassion, but also a sense of being of the people. they have always been of the people. >> you took really an iconic photograph, in 1990, the day that nelson mandela was released. what was that moment like when the gates opened and you saw nelson mandela? where. >> always working in reverse of what could go wrong. i would get one frame in focus. i would have time before the crowd would break. and my concern was i could get one photograph out of focus, and i always thought i only had two or three frames, i had actually 26, they were all in focus. in those days it was film. the next thing you're doing is unrolling it to make sure it is back in the canister and light has not been exposed to it. and putting it in your front pocket. so i put that in my front pocket, jumped in a car to race to follow the mote cade to be in front of the city hall.
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>> you ended up inside city hall in the meeting room with desmond tutu and jesse jackson and others who were waiting for mandela. that is hustle. >> yes, this is where i do get actually quite emotional, because you could hear the crowds outside, of course they didn't know we were inside. and tutu picks up the phone and says you have to come, if you don't, they will tear the place down. the door opens, and in walks 6'3" nelson mandela, the room was euphoric, he was in complete command. already you just saw this kind of grace and this charm. he just seemed to know everybody's names. which i couldn't figure out. and then archbishop tutu takes a
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glaz glass and clings it like at a wedding when you want somebody to be quiet when you make a toast. he was literally this close to madiba, i have to tell you what your life has meant to me. and i could never repeat to you the eloquence of what he said, we were all just sobbing. remarkable photographer. we'll be right back. my customers can shop around. but it doesn't usually work that way with health care. with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and cost estimates, so we can make better health decisions.
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that is it for this edition
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of "360" from south africa. starting at 3:30 eastern time, hope you join us. thanks for watching "11th hour" hosted by don lemon starts now. it is 11:00 in the east. do you know where your news is? good evening, everyone. i'm don lemon. this is "11th hour" the last word on today and what you'll be talking about tomorrow. tonight, let me ask you a very simple question. could you live on the minimum wage? feed your family, pay rent and buy everything else you need on $7.25 an hour? you probably couldn't, i know i couldn't and a lot of people think $7.25 is just not enough. president obama included. >> we know that there are airport workers and fast food workers and nurse assistants and retail sales people who work their tails off. and are still living at or barely above pov